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Daniel2
BB, from the text I got this morning the team was not only a 17 years and under side but also the team set up and tactics were wrong plus this was also the boys who played first game in a very long time.  What I am hearing is that the longer the game went the better boys played. While they got hammered it was a very tight affair for the last 25 minutes and during the entire game our boys never stopped attacking.
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Ryan Edmonson has recovered from his injury and is on the way back to Aberdeen.good luck to the lad
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Belgiantoo
Mark Jackson promoted from the U-18 to coach the U-23.
Game U-23 at 7pm (on the official site there is a link to watch the game → youtube).
Will try to have a look and see who's playing this time, missing names could be well be involved in the Carabo-cup against Hull on wednesday.

U-18 lost to Boro on saturday: 0-3 .
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batty4
2-0 down at half time and we missed abpenalty
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batty4
Belgiantoo wrote:
Mark Jackson promoted from the U-18 to coach the U-23.
Game U-23 at 7pm (on the official site there is a link to watch the game → youtube).
Will try to have a look and see who's playing this time, missing names could be well be involved in the Carabo-cup against Hull on wednesday.

U-18 lost to Boro on saturday: 0-3 .


I get the audio pass and I can't watch it even though it says I can?
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Belgiantoo
Just follow the link Batts.
Not that you're missing a lot.
We're 4-0 down. Playing nice enough football, but lacking in terms of body, height & strength.
On this showing none are ready for the first team,  but Gelhardt looks promising (missed pen). 
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PapaSmurf
I heard Gelhardt looked good tonight. Strange line up. Stevens asked to play as right wing back, Drameh and Jenkins as CBs, Hosannah on the left. In short, all the u23 defenders Struijk, Davies, Casey and Cresswell are now playing in the first team squad. Orta needs to recruit some replacements for Mark Jackson.
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BB
Belgian got it right. "Playing nice enough football, but lacking in terms of body, height & strength. On this showing none are ready for the first team,  but Gelhardt looks promising" 

Forget the scoreline, it does not reflect the game. However, I am not sure if Jackson is ready for the step up, hope he proves me wrong. We did play Bielsaball but having seen the U18s last season, I would have thought someone more inspirational and knowledgeable would have been better. Then again I doubted CC after his first few games, so what do I know?
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Daniel2
It is extremely  clear to see that our club needs to bring in a proper coach for the Under 18's, 21's & 23's side. Mark Jacksons record is absolutely terrible. His record as a coach of teams u16's and under is fantastic but for whatever reason he just can not get it done at the next age groups. As a club we are investing in youth then it makes sense to invest in a coach for them. 

Stevens is a very good player and will be in our first team at some point. The rumors of loan will be good for him.
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BB
Dan I agree. Not sure Jackson is the guy to get U23s into the first team. We need someone more committed to the modern day high press and play out from the back. Not Good Ole Redders style of knock it long with Lucy looking after the kids.
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Belgiantoo
Papasmurf, was impressed with Gelhardt, he missed his pen (which he won after showing some great skill), but has quick feet and some upperbody strength. The Stoke players in general had several inches and bodyweight on our players, so no surprise we lost a lot of our 'duels'.
Defensive line-up perhaps a bit strange with Jenkins dropping deeper (sweeper like) than Drameh and Hosannah. Still we got caught with several balls over the top.
The lad (Huggins?) on the left showed guts and determination, has decent pace and skill too but as most other Leeds players lacks in physical attributes.
Hopefully they'll beef up a bit. 
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Daniel2
BB, what do you think of the idea of having Hernandez, Berardi and Klich working together to manage u23's? 

Personally like idea of having a specialist doing the role. We had it last season but for whatever reason we do not for this season.
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BB
Not sure Hernandez, Berardi and Klich have their coaching badges or the inclination to coach. Would personally prefer a specialist/experienced coach who can bridge the gap between U23s and First Team.

We must not waste the talent that is in our Academy. 
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PapaSmurf
BB wrote:
Dan I agree. Not sure Jackson is the guy to get U23s into the first team. We need someone more committed to the modern day high press and play out from the back. Not Good Ole Redders style of knock it long with Lucy looking after the kids.


To be fair, he's had reasonable success with the u18s and has previously won the Professional Development Northern League title. I can't imagine Bielsa agreeing to the appointment of a coach who doesn't buy into his philosophy and coaching approach. It also fits in with the evolution not revolution direction that Orta and MB have set. They probably are happier to promote from within than an outsider who would need to  be inducted into  Bielsaball. It  also means an opportunity for Scott Gardner to step up to the u18 job.
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BB
Papa I think I should reserve my opinion until the New Year. However what I saw v Hull indicates a better coach may be needed for the U23s. I would love Jackson to step up and Gardner too as they are Leeds. Just hope they understand Bielsa ball not Good Ole Redders ball.
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PapaSmurf
I don't think we can level any blame for the Hull game as he wasn't in post for that match, and I don't think had any involvement. I do agree that he should be judged next year rather than now. But I do believe the club have a plan, that they've given it considerable thought and that it wasn't a kneejerk appointment.
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Belgiantoo
Much better display from the U-23, drew 2-2 against Wolves.
Goals from Geldhardt and Greenwood (first half goals gave us a 2-0 lead).
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Danish Leeds Fan
Gelhardt really impressive today - strong, fast, hard-working. Greenwood, Huggins, Drameh and Gotts also stood out. Generally, a high technical level from our u23’s. Wolves had some tall, strong players who caused us some problems, but we more than deserved the 2-2 draw.
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write up and videos of the goals today.Nice goal from Gelhardt
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Daniel2
I each this game in full 3 times and I will say this. Can someone please explain the team positional section that were made for this match?

2 right backs playing in the CB positions.
1 CB/DCM playing left back
2 ACM play left & right wing backs
1 pure winger playing CM

the team was unorganised and look uncomfortable. Sorry but this was a coaching thing a needs to be sorted A.S.A.P.

There is some talent there but then need positional a tactical instructions. Maybe even playing in their normal positions.
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PapaSmurf
Daniel2 wrote:
I each this game in full 3 times and I will say this. Can someone please explain the team positional section that were made for this match?

2 right backs playing in the CB positions.
1 CB/DCM playing left back
2 ACM play left & right wing backs
1 pure winger playing CM

the team was unorganised and look uncomfortable. Sorry but this was a coaching thing a needs to be sorted A.S.A.P.

There is some talent there but then need positional a tactical instructions. Maybe even playing in their normal positions.


MB doesn't define players by position.  Players aren't full backs, centre backs, midfielders or wingers. There's no such thing as left sided or right sided players. It's the skills that count in his book. Every player except the goalkeepers is expected to play in multiple positions.
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batty4
I thought that was MB's way. He wants versatility and if you can't play more than one position you won't get your chance at U23 level
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Daniel2
Bielsa does indeed like player adaptability but before he moves then to a new position he prepares them, educates them builds their confidence in their natural position beforehand. The players in the U23's are being thrown into with none of this. Bielsa has a game plan which is purely regimented through continued training reps and amply video review session but the U23's do not.
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